Interview of Rick Nolthenius on Climate Change and Our Future, by Gary Rollinson

Mar 1, 2018 and Apr 12, 2018

Cabrillo College adjunct in Computer Science Gary Rollinson has become interested in the implications for our future of the Post-IPCC AR5 climate science which I've assembled. He is interested in putting together a documentary of hours of our conversations as he interviews me on this subject. We got together on Thursday March 1 at 2pm in the STEM building, had the video and audio equipment assembled and ready to go by 2:45pm, and we talked until 5:30pm, realizing there was much more to say and so agreed to meet again. That second meeting was on Thursday Apr 12 again at 2pm, and again we worked until 5:30pm. During these interviews, I explained the new research showing higher equilibrium climate sensitivity to CO2, the implications for permafrost melt due to the much stronger Arctic Ocean sea ice loss, the work of Anton Vaks and MacDougall on permafrost melt, and Schurer et al. on methane release from the thawing permafrost. Also on the implications for how California's climate and ecosystems will change in this century, as we lose our Santa Cruz redwoods. And, on the discovery of the relationship to current global power consumption and the total global GDP spending over all time, and extensions to this "Thermodynamics of Civilization" that I've done. And finally, on Jevons' Paradox and how energy efficiency raises energy consumption for the globe, not reduces it, and why.

For my work, I spent 2 hrs of preparation time organizing what were the points to make, and assembling slides and images which were shown on a second camera while I discussed them in the video footage interview, and then 3 hours of actual interview time. That's 5 hours total on March 1. And we did this twice - once on March 1 and again on April 12. Contact Gary Rolllinson to confirm these figures, for flex credit verification.

The video is not yet ready to link here. But I have a few still images from our video which are shown below. Gary was meticulous in attempting to make the video and audio of professional quality - assembling a special table in his wood shop, multiple audio recording devices and microphones, and several video cameras; one on Gary, one on me, one on the LCD projector screen.